Tuesday, August 18, 2009

Planning for 1k Tournament

So I've got the green light to attend the 1k tournament on Sept 5th. I'll probably swing by the shop at lunch to put my name down.

Now to think about a list and what to play. There was a 1k tourny back in June that I took Tau and went 1-2. There were a few things I learned there as far as dealing with the fact you only have a relatively small army. I saw a number of different approaches to how people built lists. Some went for the 'This is my hammer... there is nothing else' while others built some more balanced list.

Now I know I'm becoming biased but I've had to play against chaos 5 out of 9 of my last tournament games at this place. So the first thing I'm looking at is what kind of nasty lash list am I going to look at across the board.

HQ: Demon Prince, Wings, MoS, Lash 155
HQ: Demon Prince, Wings, MoS, Lash 155
Troop: 5 Plague Marines, 2 Plasma, Rhino, EA, Combi Melta 185
Troop: 5 Plague Marines, 2 Plasma, Rhino, EA, Combi Melta 185
Heavy: 2 Oblits 150
Heavy: 2 Oblits 150

Yes it is not a lot of models but it is still a pain. The DP lash and oblit combo is the main killing force here. The plague marines are tucked in mobile bunkers and are already hard to kill. Add in the plasma for some extra fire power and it is not to be taken lightly. Of course a good eldar list or even sisters list can clean this chaos players clock.

The other list to still be thinking about is the Nob biker list. This list won the last 1k tournament if I recall.

HQ: Warboss, Bike, Cybork, PK, Attack Squig 150
HQ: Warboss, Bike, Cybork, PK, Attack Squig 150
Troop: 4 Nob bikers, 1 Painboy, Bikes, Waagh Banner, Cybork for all, 2x PK, bosspole, 350
Troop: 4 Nob bikers, 1 Painboy, Bikes, Waagh Banner, Cybork for all, 2x PK, bosspole, 350

So you have two roving bands of crazy bikes with bosses. This list basically needs to kill everything on the board since it likely isn't able to hold a bunch of objectives. Of course with mobility, survivability and killing power it CAN clear everything off a board. You quickly find out a 4x4 board doesn't leave a lot of room to run.

So what can we do to counter these lists?
1) Mech will help. Avoiding the lash and needing to be popped out of vehicles before being charged by the bikers will help. The biker army falls down against SOME mech since it's CC power is it's only really way to pop vehicles. Of course it is good at popping vehicles in CC, and then you still need to kill them so... it isn't instant win.
2) High Str guns. Str 8 is the magic number. Good for insta killing nob bikers, plague marines and oblits, but you still have to get through cover and invul. Str 7 is still nice for the Princes, but Str 8 is where it counts.

There are of course other things you can try to do. Anti Psych, loads of AP2, tough bastard units, etc.

But here is the kicker: since we know those two lists are out there everybody else ends up building lists against them also. So you either run into the two list mentioned, or you run into the list ready to play against them. These are the lists loaded with vehicles and tons of high str weapons. Enter stage left Mech Eldar, Mech IG, Mech marines, etc.

Now those lists can ALSO be dealt with by taking lots of vehicles and high str guns.

Or is there another trick to pull out? Can a huge horde upset these lists? Do you have a tough enough unit to push back against the killing hammer blows?

Or is this simply a matter of 'if you can't beat 'em join 'em'?

Time to start penning out lists...

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